by Jim Beers
I have just read a bundle of comments from readers of the Sierra Times to an
article by William Jud. The article questions the authenticity of the
recent "discovery" of "an" "extinct" bird, the
Ivory-billed Woodpecker, in
eastern Arkansas. The majority of responses exude a level of personal
nastiness that defies a reasonable response. When you refer to someone
as
smoking "crack" or an "embarrassment to mankind" or
"smelling your own
excrement out of your own pie-hole" or "full of Republican
propaganda and
corporate greed", you are signaling that your mind is made up and any
questions should not be tolerated or you will retaliate by personal
degradation. Alas, these invectives make further discussion more
necessary
than ever.
The following facts, as best the public knows them, make the question Mr.
Jud asked regarding the authenticity of the recent Ivory-billed Woodpecker
"discovery" a serious matter for determination.
1.) How likely is it that the largest woodpecker in North America could
remain unseen or unheard in Southern woodlands for 60 years? Especially
while Red-cockaded Woodpeckers have been on the Endangered Species List for
30 years and have been counted, studied, and researched by ornithologists,
bureaucrats, bird watchers, and landowners throughout these Southern
woodlands during this period. If we "know" there are 5,800
Red-cockaded
Woodpeckers in Southern woodlands, how did we miss the Ivory-billed
Woodpeckers that preceded this (these?) bird? One need not subscribe to
"conspiracy theories to ask this question.
2.) The Ivory-billed Woodpecker bears little resemblance to any other
woodpecker (Pileated Woodpeckers look, fly, and sound different), so 60
years of hiding seems unlikely. Ivory-bills "look like a pintail in
flight"
and sound like a "red-breasted nuthatch, only louder". Are we
to believe
that the ancestors (colonies?, pairs?, etc.) of the (one bird is all we know
of so far) "discovered" bird went unnoticed by birdwatchers,
hunters,
fishermen, farmers, loggers, birdwatchers, professors, bureaucrats, mushroom
hunters, etc. until only one was left 60 years later? Such a scenario
defies logic.
3.) The Ivory-billed Woodpecker has been reported both to persist and to be
extinct in Cuba in recent years. Cuba neither manages nor utilizes its'
natural resources to any degree and travel to and from that country by
reliable (meaning no hidden agendas) ornithologists with free travel about
the country is questionable at best. There are reports of the birds
persisting there very recently. Should we ask the Cuban government?
It is
too "Republican" to suspect that a bribe to Cuban officials might
obtain the
unobtainable?
4.) Does one have to be on "crack" to understand that millions (5
Million
acres have already been claimed) of acres of "Critical Habitat"
throughout
the South could be claimed for this bird? Do you have to smell your own
"excrement" to realize the devastating effect this will have on
southern
forest ownership, hunting, fishing, logging, waterway usage, etc., etc. when
the Federal government and the environmental organizations get going in
court, with Congress, with increasingly malleable State agencies?
5.) Is one an "embarrassment to mankind" to look honestly at the
history and
impacts of the Endangered Species Act and radicals involving wolves, spotted
owls, sand flies, vernal pools, forest fires, logging, ranching, hunting,
fishing, public land access, private property rights, States rights, etc.
and urge caution until more is revealed to the public about this
"discovery"?
Does the record of the bureaucrats and environmentalists (remember the
"lynx
hair" planted in a "study" or the recent scandal about the
mysterious use of
millions by The Nature Conservancy) to ask a reasonable question such as
"what guarantee is there that there is not some illegality involved
here"?
Might organizations that claim millions in tax exemptions as
"non-profit"
and then illegally lobby Congress also think they could get away with the
scam of releasing a Cuban bird or birds?
6.) The fact that the US Department of the Interior kept this
"secret" for
at least 15 months should raise red flags. How can a Department charged
with providing for Endangered Species keep such a thing "secret"?
Why was
Cornell included and not other Universities with respected Ornithology
Departments? Will Cornell then get the lions' share of grants?
Which
Congressmen were "in" on the "secret"? When
announced $10.5 Million had
already been "committed" by Congress. On what basis can a
Federal
Department decide to involve certain organizations that represent
eliminating all natural resource use while excluding organizations that
advocate natural resource use? One such organization, The Nature
Conservancy, is worth 100's of Millions (Billions?) and "partners"
with
radical environmental organizations routinely. The Department and such
extremist organizations regularly work with and partner with international
radical groups and UN bureaucrats intent on absorbing as much US
governmental jurisdiction as possible. The history and record of these
groups is rife with deceit, hidden agendas, and the accumulation of enormous
power over society. Surely we can ask if the Federal agency that arrests
us
for a sealskin knickknack upon return from a foreign vacation has
investigated the possibility of the bird having been captured and
transported (a violation of law) to and released (another violation) in the
US.
7.) I filed a Freedom of Information Request right after the "joint"
announcement of the "discovery" to try and answer these questions.
Because
I had no record of informing the public and the assertion that I might not
understand what they would provide, my request was denied. Well not
"really" denied. Instead of saying they would provide all the
information
from the "secret" period as well as before and after, they said I
should
begin depositing thousands of dollars in an account and they would
"begin"
looking for and copying documents. No commitment to turn over
"everything",
just what I pay for until I run out of money. In other words they would
be
under any obligation to provide "everything", just what I paid for
until I
ran out of money.
So as Southern land is shut down, forests targeted, human activities
reduced, rural communities undercut, rural economies threatened, and the
careers of bureaucrats and lawyers enhanced; the above questions go
unanswered except that the arrogant bureaucrats scoff and the
environmentalists hurl invectives. A Republic depends on the rule of
law.
This is Anarchy where unmanaged bureaucrats and the loudest powerful
factions force themselves on minorities despite laws. Questioning the
origin of that bird is not the badge of a conspirator, it is the mark of a
concerned free citizen being dismissed by his government and personally
demeaned to divert attention from the question he asks.
Jim Beers
11 July 2005
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----Original
Message----
From: Bill Jud
Sent: 7/10/2005 9:01:09 AM Pacific Standard Time
Subject: Reader responses, mainly from Greenies, on Woodpecker story
in Sierra Times
Here are
the reader responses through July 10, on my Sierra Times article
WOODPECKER SMELLS LIKE A RAT. Most responses appear to be from
Greenies.
William Jud
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There have been 19 responses to this article
From: Dan
Some people just don't get it.
Submitted: Friday July 8,2005 - 08:07:00 am
From: C. principalis
What kind of crack are you smoking?
Submitted: Thursday July 7,2005 - 09:23:00 pm
From: Not Given
This is humor?
Submitted: Thursday July 7,2005 - 07:00:00 pm
From: Jim Holcomb
William Jud's statement is an embarrassment to mankind and to employ Russ
Limbaugh's thoughts on the subject is futher insult to any thinking person.
Submitted: Thursday July 7,2005 - 01:20:00 pm
From: Vincent Lucas
Mr. Jud:
What you smell is your own excrement effusing out of your pie-hole. Get an
education and quit inbreeding with your next-of-kin!
Submitted: Wednesday July 6,2005 - 09:05:00 pm
From: American Citizen
Although I was initially caught up in enthusiasm over the Ivory Bill's
"discovery", I too sensed something wrong from the beginning.
The area of Arkansas where the bird was reportedly found is not the Ivory
Bill's original range. The habitat there is an "island" far
removed from the
deep south, only a small patch of swamp completely surrounded by flat fields
of soybeans with an inadequate natural food supply for the bird.
If indeed an Ivory Bill was seen in Arkansas, it is more likely a specimen
brought from Cuba (where the species still exists) and planted there in
order to garner support for a governmental land grab.
We are living in the age of deception where our politicians and government
think nothing of lying to us in order to pursue an anti-constitutional
agenda. Everything from 911 and Iraq to property confiscation and the
"patriot" act, Americans are now governed by a team of willing
traitors
supported by a daily series of "Hollywood" productions instead of
truth in
news.
By falsifying reports of an extinct Ivory Bill Woodpecker
"discovered" in
Arkansas, the feds accomplish two things. The government can seize lands and
private properties declaring them off limits to the public and then develop,
or harvest natural resources in whatever capacity it desires. If the illegal
scheme is ever revealed, the public would always be untrusting and opposed
to any future, valid environmental protections.
Beyond ruining our economy and destroying our reputation in the world, the
thugs in Washington have not only polluted our children's minds and values,
they have also stolen our fellow citizens' hearts, our health and our hopes
for the future.
Submitted: Wednesday July 6,2005 - 04:08:00 pm
From: Tim
I think your the rat. The truth is that the government isn't trying to keep
us off the lands, but are trying to keep the lands for future generations.
If it wasn't for "US" maybe these species, like the Ivory-billed
wouldn't
have gotten to the point it's at now, and regulations wouldn't need be in
place. But the fact is HUMANS ARE MORONS and need somebody to step in and do
something about it. I am not an environmentalist, but an avid outdoorsmen
who enjoys nature, and I would rather see some areas closed off to people,
than to see them destroyed, by big business, and people who don't care abotu
the lands... I see where you lay on this.
Submitted: Wednesday July 6,2005 - 10:39:00 am
From: Alex
The woodpeckers in Cuba have been presumed to be extinct since the 80's. How
could these enviromental "gansters" smuggle such a large black,
white, and
red bird almost two feet long into Arkansas, while it's extinct? And why
Arkansas? Almost all the other southeast states have more potential habitat
and more habitat lost to builders and agriculture than Arknsas. And such a
fragile bird that can barely live within miles of people could never live
under the stress of the capture in another country, shipped to North
America, and be expected to live is inconceivable. It's just not possible
for a bird that could get a heart attack from just seeing a human, so to
speak.
A lot of what you have said about enviromentalists ploys are true, and some
maybe just opinions. With this one, you can't just blurt out assumptions.
There is a woodpecker in Big Woods, whether its suppost to be extinct or
not, whether it was smuggled or not. I'm sure you will recieve many
feedbacks and e-mails that won't be very friendly, but all will probably be
somewhat related to what I am saying.
Alex,
Miami, FL
Submitted: Wednesday July 6,2005 - 08:21:00 am
From: Not Given
Ya know, this is just sinister and diabolical enough to be true. Who knew
the CIA had infiltrated the 'Green Guys'?
In all seriousness, it does give a different perspective on all the hype.
Submitted: Wednesday July 6,2005 - 07:45:00 am
From: Rockne Knuth
You ought to write about things you know about and understand - like
Republican propaganda and corporate greed. So you are saying the Ivory-bills
were just a diversion. I suppose it's kind of like your president using
WMD's as an excuse for a war for oil.
Submitted: Wednesday July 6,2005 - 07:40:00 am
From: Not Given
I am convinced that the ivory-billed woodpecker does exist. I think you
believe it exists as well, but you represent some special interests that may
be hurt by setting aside lands for this extraordinarily rare bird's
survival. But to lift your spirits, I believe that there is a good chance
that the individual sighted may be the LAST of it's kind, or that there may
be only a very few individuals...probably not enough to perpetuate the
survival of this American treasure, a treasure you obviously would like to
see fade into oblivion. You're pathetic, but you'll likely see your dream
come true...the demise of the ivory-bill. And the realization of your own
dreams...money, money, money.
Submitted: Wednesday July 6,2005 - 07:23:00 am
From: Not Given
Your commentary is so moronic and twisted it's frightening. To suggest that
anyone associated with the effort to confirm the persistence of Ivory bills
is operating in an illegal or deceptive manner is offensive. The sighting
that catalyzed this most recent effort was by a local, long time user of the
area who spends countless hours in the 'swamp' because he loves to be there
more than any place else. If he thought for a second that bringing his
sighting to the attention of scientists at would result in the area being
closed to him and other lovers of the remaining big woods, I don't believe
he would have made it known. This man is not a scientist looking for a
feather in his cap, he is a sportsman and nature lover that spends endless
hours in a place most people don't want to go because it is widely
characterized as holding nothing but venomous snakes and nasty bugs,
precisely why he saw the bird in the first place. This is not a bird one
simpley goes looking for, it is a bird that you are lucky enough to catch a
glimpse of if you spend the time just being out there. I personally know
many of the scientists involved with this search and two attitudes run deep
among the group...1) that duck hunters and anglers are to be praised for
taking action to preserve reamining big woods habitat for their continued
enjoyment and the enjoyment of future generations, thus indirectly they may
be responsible for the bird holding on in small numbers all these years 2)
it is absolutely crucial that these areas remain accessible to the public,
especially the locals, even that land that shifts from private holding to
nature preserve. The other potnential buyers of these private land areas
would convert it to cotton, soybean, or tree farming. Cotton Plant is an
ecomonically depressed ghost town because of industrialized agriculture.
Despite what you may think, the scientists also care about the future of
these people. If more birders and people interested in just what this
precious big woods is all about bring tourism to the area that is good for
the locals. More birders in the woods also means greater potential for
additional sightings and perhaps the absolutely inconclusive proof that we
are still hoping for. Your comparisons to the Spotted Owl situation are
innacurate, unfair, grossly distorted, misinformed, and replete with opinion
presented as fact. I am a conservationist and moderatetly conservative
scientist that occassionally even listens to Rush. Please remember that he
is an entertainer. To suggest that one is a communist because of concern
about the environment and the future of humanity is comedy, America's most
valued form of entertainment. You must also separate the scientists from the
radical activists. No serious conservation scientist I have ever met condons
extremism in the name of the environment. I think you need to read and
discuss these issues more widely before you begin to characterize such
diverse groups of people. Your condemnation only exposes your ignorance.
Submitted: Wednesday July 6,2005 - 07:12:00 am
From: Not Given
Wow,
Was that article stupid. How can the writer be so dumb. I hate to break it
to him but Ivory-billed Woodpeckers haven't been seen in Cuba for years
either. I think the last sighting(or maybe probably sighting) was 1989. I
just can't belive how some people can be so ignorant and against the
environment. I guess this world is just full of regualr people and idiots.
Oh, and I think I know which category this writer would fall into.
Submitted: Wednesday July 6,2005 - 06:05:00 am
From: Not Given
The adequacy of an explanation is no guarantee that it is the correct one.
How about presenting a little proof of your assertions instead of rhetoric
and mere speculation?
Submitted: Wednesday July 6,2005 - 05:05:00 am
From: Not Given
You have it all wrong my friend because the Cuban ivory bills are thought
extinct, and no one has seen one never mind caught one for years!
You are getting really carried away and your ideas are more fanciful than
the rediscovery of the dodo in the USA
reader from England, UK
Submitted: Wednesday July 6,2005 - 02:15:00 am
From: Anon mouse
Dear Mr.Rat promoter. You sound like such a pessamist and surmiser. In fact
there have been many sightings and reports but none able to be authenticated
by the proper process. It is possible if you were just out hunting for rats
that anything that moved, in your vision, would probably be a rat.
Submitted: Tuesday July 5,2005 - 01:48:00 pm
From: chris
I smell a rat, too. William Jud. What a sad man.
Submitted: Tuesday July 5,2005 - 01:42:00 pm
From: American Citizen
Although I was initially caught up in enthusiasm of the Ivory Bill's
"discovery", I too sensed something wrong from the beginning.
The area of Arkansas where the bird was reportedly found is not even the
Ivory Bill's original range. The habitat there is an "island" far
removed
from the deep south, only a small patch of swamp completely surrounded by
flat fields of soybeans with an inadequate natural food source for the bird.
We are living in the age of deception where our politicians and government
think nothing of lying to us in order to pursue an anti-constitutional
agenda. Everything from 911 and Iraq to property confiscation and the
"patriot" act, Americans are now governed by a team of willing
traitors and
a daily series of "Hollywood" productions instead of truth in
news.
Beyond ruining our economy and destroying our reputation in the world, the
thugs in Washington have not only pollutted our children's minds, they have
stolen our hearts, our health and our hopes for the future.
Submitted: Tuesday July 5,2005 - 01:30:00 pm
From: Alan
I usually find your articles very informative and thought provoking whether
I agree or not. This, however sounds more like something that belongs on a
conspiracy theory web site along with the "Americans never landed on
the
moon" stuff. This is another "conspiracy" that is really only
one if you do
not study it very deeply. Just my opinion.
Submitted: Tuesday July 5,2005 - 12:49:00 pm