Should the Klamath Tribes be given 692,000 acres of the Winema National Forest ?

 

Talking Points

 

n      Were the Klamath Tribes terminated?  

No.  Federal Supervision was all that was terminated.  Both the reservation and the Klamath Tribe existed after termination.  Tribal members were given a choice of whether they wanted to stay in the Tribe, or leave the Tribe and get their share of the reservation in cash.  

A full 17 years before Termination took place, tribal members were discussing selling the reservation – Topic for discussion at the Dec. 1, 1936 Klamath Tribal General Council Meeting.  February 2, 3, and 9, 1950, the Klamath Tribes voted to introduce the voluntary withdrawal act in Congress, allowing their members to sell the reservation for cash, with only the Tribal Chairman opposing.  This act did not pass Congress, but evolved into the Act Providing for Termination of Federal Supervision of the Klamath Tribes.  This allowed the Tribes to sell the reservation in exchange for cash, for withdrawing members.  This act terminated federal supervision of the tribes, and the BIA would no longer have any say-so in the Tribes’ affairs.  The same act also allowed tribal members to withdraw from the tribe in exchange for cash, something for which the Tribes had lobbied.  The Termination Act also provided for per capita payments.  

1,659 tribal members voted to withdraw, 80 voted to remain and 394 did not vote and thus were included with the remaining members.  The tribal members received over 220 million actual dollars compensation for the various sales (about 900 million in today’s dollars).  

As reported at the July 29, 1954 General Council meeting, the elected Tribal delegates wrote the following about the Termination Bill . . .  “In conclusion, we desire to advise the tribes that we believe one of the most desirable features of the bill, and one which has encouraged us to agree upon the bill as reported by the House Committee, is that which provides for a complete and accurate appraisal of tribal property.”  In a letter from Congressman Sam Coon, as read at the October 28, 1954 Tribal General Council Meeting, “After it was passed in the House, Mr. Boyd Jackson, Jesse Kirk, and Wade Crawford came and personally thanked me for getting the bill passed exactly as it was and for not permitting any changes or amendments in the bill.  Then the Senate adopted the bill that all the Klamath representatives agreed was what they wanted.”  

n      Is it true that Tribal members were “paid twice or three times” for the same land?  

No.  Withdrawing members and remaining members were separate people so the payments to remaining members at a later date was not being paid twice.  However, the Tribes have had a massive litigation machine for decades and they went back to court to get ever-increasing payments for the land that they sold (to that extent they were paid twice).  The Tribes received multiple additional payments for various issues over the years.  

n      Is it true that the Klamath Tribes were on of the wealthiest tribes in the nation?  

Yes, but those revenues came almost entirely from timber harvest and grazing.  And there was a push to harvest more and more timber . . .i.e. BE IT RESOLVED, that the General Council does hereby agree and consent to the sale of all the remaining stand of virgin timber and the cut over lands, in 50 to 100M ft M.B. for cash to the highest Bidder, and that the pro rata share of each man, woman and child shall be paid to him or her, in cash.”  Results:  For 70, Opposed 67, General Council Meeting, October 3 & 4, 1946.  The BIA and the Tribal Chairman eventually got this vote of the tribes overturned.  

n      Will the Klamath Tribes allow for public access if the forestlands are given to them?  Will the tribes allow access to those who own private property within the proposed boundaries?  

According to the “Frequently Asked Questions” pamphlet handed out by the tribes, any public access will be regulated by “policies and laws to be developed by the Klamath Tribes . . . consistent with tribally adopted ecosystem management goals . . . and they will develop and implement the Klamath Tribes Recreation Strategy which emphasizes balances Tribal needs with public access.”  “The Tribes will maintain the right to limit certain routes of access in accordance with tribally adopted management goals . . .”  There are precedents with other Tribes showing that private access will either be denied, or exorbitant fees will be charged.  Will those with road maintenance agreements with the Forest Service be able to continue as now?  What about snow removal, downed trees and slides?  In the “Matters Concerning Return of Forestlands to the Klamath Tribes, “ February 22, 2003 . . . “The Tribal policy on public access will provide a framework for development of relevant tribal ordinances that are consistent with tribally adopted ecosystem management goals . . . Ownership and jurisdiction over Forest Service roads . . . will transfer to the Tribes . . The tribes will manage and maintain the road system under a tribal forest roads plan . . . In many places, that will mean a lower, perhaps much lower, road density.”

n      Will the tribes allow for hunting and fishing?  

According to the “Frequently Asked Questions” pamphlet handed out by the tribes, “non-tribal access for hunting, fishing, camping, and other recreational purposes will be pursuant to the Tribes’ policy on public access . . . Hunting, fishing and trapping permits will be issued to Tribal members and the general public based on the availability of the resources . . . The Klamath Tribes Recreation Strategy, which emphasizes balancing Tribal needs with public access for a variety of recreation experiences.”  It is obvious that tribal needs will outweigh any public access or recreational, hunting, or fishing access.  It would be up to the tribes to interpret what the “availability of the resources” means.  It is also clear that, as with other tribally managed lands in the U.S. , any fees would be at the discretion of the tribes.  There are areas where one elk tag costs thousands of dollars, and hiking, fishing, camping or riding on tribal lands each comes with high daily fees.  

n      Will the tribes allow for wood gathering?  

According to the “Frequently Asked Questions” pamphlet handed out by the tribes, “It is the goal of the Klamath Tribes to implement a woodcutting program that will provide a sustainable source of firewood fuels for both Tribal members and the general public.”  The emphasis should be on the fact that tribal concerns will come first, and that it will be their definition of “sustainable” that would regulate amounts and fees for firewood gathering.  

n      What guarantee is there that the next tribal council will honor agreements?  

None.  The tribes consider themselves to be a sovereign entity within the United States , answerable only to the federal government.  They also feel that they are equal to the federal government and therefore can make and change their policies as they see fit.  

n      Does the Klamath Basin Rangeland Trust represent all parties except the Klamath Tribes?  

No.  The Klamath Basin Rangeland Trust does not represent all parties in these negotiations.  Two businessmen who live outside of the area head it.  Both of them have profited from special water multi-million dollar marketing agreements they negotiated with the administration.  They are not representative of local farmers, ranchers and private property owners.  They have hired Jake Kann, whose science was used in the 2001 Biological opinion, shutting down the Klamath Project – which was questioned by the National Research Council’s report, 10/22/03 , Herald and News.  They have engaged in “secret” meetings with high-level government officials and the Klamath Tribes.  

n      Will we be subject to tribal police and courts instead of our locally elected officials?  

Since tribes are independent nations, they cannot be sued to enforce a contract.  There are ample precedents for unfair treatment of non-Indians in tribal courts elsewhere, and ridiculous sentences for tribal members in tribal court.  In the Regularly scheduled General Council meeting, February 22, 2003 , a quorum of the Tribes General Council adopted the “Matters Concerning Return of Forestlands to the Klamath Tribes,” which in part states,  . . . “Because the land will be Indian Country upon its return, it will not be subject to state or federal authority except as such authority applies to other Indian Country of the State of Oregon. . . The Tribes will have civil enforcement jurisdiction for violations of the laws and regulations by both tribal members and non-tribal members . . . The Klamath Tribal Court . . . will have jurisdiction over all the lands returned to the tribes and civil jurisdiction as provided by law over persons located on tribal lands . . . and may, in the future, assert jurisdiction over crimes committed by Indians within the boundaries of the lands returned.”  

n      Didn’t the Klamath Tribes win the “Adair” case, proving their water rights claims?  

No.  The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals rejected the Lower Court ’s approval of the Adair case.  The Federal Court found the Tribes have a water right to maintain their current hunting and fishing as it exists now, not as it existed in 1864.  The Tribes have filed adjudication for more water than actually exists!  In one case this amounts to 18 times the natural flow of water at the claimed headwaters.  

n      How important is the Sucker fish?  

W.H. Slattery, a reservation engineer, made the following observations while investigating potential repairs to the Chiloquin Dam in 1940.  Please note that suckers are also referred to as “mullets.”  “It is my observation that the fishing activities of the Indians near the dam could render serious injury to a great number of fish.  In attempting to “gaff” trout, which seem to be more desirable then mullets, the fishermen often “gaff” mullets, which they immediately return to the stream after serious mutilation by the removal of the gaff hook.  In fishing along the stream for trout immediately below the dam with rod and tackle the fishermen often snag mullets, the hooks entering the body which necessitates they bring the fish to shore for removal of the hook by cutting it out with a pocket knife or by allowing the fish to tear itself free from the hook while being brought to shore.  The trout fishermen do not enjoy these difficulties since it results in the loss of much time and effort besides the loss of valuable tackle.”  

“During the run of fish I have observed as high as twenty-five fishermen both with tackle and gaff hooks below the dam and I feel that these fishermen would mutilate a great number of fish in the above manner.”  

“As to the fish which have died in their attempt to pass the dam on their migration upstream, referred to in office letter July 24, 1939 , Mr. Blocklinger claims that the only dead fish he has seen in the vicinity of the dam are those which have been removed from the stream by fishermen and left upon the dam to rot.  Also, he states that these fish are called “suckers” and are not preferred for food.” (Slattery 1939)  

Why do federal biologists claim the suckers need high lake levels despite increased mortality during high lake levels and lower die-offs during low lake levels?  Why do these scientists recommend releasing millions of gallons of warm, low oxygen water out of Klamath Lake , into the Klamath River when we know Coho salmon die when they encounter that warm, oxygen-depleted water?  

n      Will my property values go down if it is surrounded by the proposed reservation?  

There are precedents showing lowered property values after the property was surrounded by reservations elsewhere.  Many people purposefully purchased property here because of the proximity to National Forest lands.  In the Regularly scheduled General Council meeting, February 22, 2003 , a quorum of the Tribes General Council adopted the “Matters Concerning Return of Forestlands to the Klamath Tribes,” which in part states, “Much of the restoration work necessary to achieve a healthy ecosystem in the Upper Klamath Basin must occur on privately held lands. . . The Tribes are willing to work . . . to identify methods of performing restoration activities so that the ecosystem derives a maximum benefit and the landowner is minimally burdened."